So Carmen Vitale does an incredible job working for Fox Sports Radio.

She also works for Marquis Network.

She's covered the NFC North for forever.

She covers the Bears along with that.

You were at Soldier Field on Saturday.

What was it like?

It was special.

It was cool.

I still actually, and it's still, I think it's still my coat pocket.

I have my first credential from the first time I ever got to cover a Bears Packers game.

So for those of you that don't know, I grew up here in the Western suburbs.

I grew up a massive Bears fan.

I had a ring that I got when I was a teenager that it was like from the NFL shop and it said bears on it. And I wore it all the way up until I started interning for the Arizona Cardinals in college. And I was like maybe I shouldn't have another team on my finger. So this has always been a very special rivalry. I don't, I'm completely biased.

I think it's the best one in pretty much all of the major sports.

And it was, it was always a really cool thing that I got to cover it then.

But, and Lawrence, as you know, I think when you, especially when you work for a team,

I worked for a team in Tampa for six years.

And you have a Super Bowl ring from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

I was well compensated for my efforts, though not monetarily.

That's another story.

But it does then become a job, right?

And it, you get immune to a lot. And you kind kind of there's the shell that kind of forms or

...