This is Ashley Stone, and you're listening to The Comeback Podcast.

Surf clothing is one of our favorite brands.

They have been supporting us since the very beginning.

We love them so much.

I think one of the things that. We love them so much.

I think one of the things that I like about serve so much is that my husband is literally obsessed.

And I brought him in here to share his experience with serve clothing.

So, Jesse, tell us.

I love serve clothing. This is the best shirt that I've ever owned for church and professional purposes. It's got four-way stretch, which makes it really nice because not all the time. I'm at my desk. Oftentimes I'm moving and out and about. So it's really nice to have a flexible shirt that moves with me. I know that it's got a mesh collar that I love. I think the purpose of that is really to prevent stains, but it's also

super comfortable. It's way more comfortable around my neck. You know, if I'm at church or in business

meetings with a tie or whether I don't have a tie, it's really comfortable. It's got arm

vents, which I love because I'm kind of a bigger fella. It helps me so that I can be a bit

breathable and I love it. And also, you can get 15% off a shirt from serve by using the code comeback.

Casey, I am so excited to have you back on the podcast for round two.

I know I've told you this like three times, but that Oliver Cowdery episode that we did before,

it was life changing for me. I have listened to that episode more

times on the podcast than I have any of our other episodes. What it taught me was that things that

happened in church history and early building up of the church are mirrors of

things that happened today and really understanding how they navigated these different things.

It's like a roadmap for how we can handle hard situations and how we can do things.

And it was like a light bulb moment for me.

And it was just, it's funny because I work in a startup tech software company.

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