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Bayeux Tapestry politics & natural disasters: history behind the headlines

History Extra podcast

Immediate Media

History

4.34.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

In the latest episode of our monthly series charting the historical background of current news events, regular panellists Hannah Skoda and Rana Mitter are joined by Matt Elton and Dr David Musgrove to explore what the Bayeux Tapestry tells us about the history of Anglo-French relations – and how people in previous centuries coped with natural disasters. The HistoryExtra podcast is produced by the team behind BBC History Magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to our monthly series History Behind the Headlines. I'm Matt Elton.

0:07.0

In each episode, an expert panel will be exploring the historical news stories that have caught their eye and the history that will help you make sense of what's going on in the world.

0:16.0

Each month, I'll be joined by our two regular panelists.

0:19.0

I'm Hannah Skoda, I'm Fellow and Tudor in

0:21.5

medieval history at St John's College in Oxford. I'm Rana Mitter. I'm St. Lee Chair in US-Asia

0:27.7

Relations at the Harvard Kennedy School and I'm a specialist on modern Chinese history.

0:33.5

Hannah and Rana, thank you both so much as always for being here with us. We're going to start

0:37.3

this month with the big news announced earlier in July that the Bayer Tapestry is set to return to the UK for the first time in more than 900 years and we'll go on display at the British Museum in London next year. To help us understand more about why this is such big news and a bit about the longer history of the politics of it at all. I'm delighted to say that we're

0:54.7

joined by Dr Dave Musgrove, whose content director of History Extra and the History Extra podcast

0:59.4

and the co-author with Michael Lewis of the story of the Bayer Tapestry unraveling the Norman

1:04.8

conquest. Dave, to kick us off, why is this such exciting news? Well, this is the biggest news

1:10.6

in the history world. Biggest news

1:12.1

in my career, and particularly because I've written this book, it's very exciting. So let me recap

1:16.3

where we are. So the bear tapestry is going to be loaned to the UK by France, as you said.

1:20.6

The loan was first announced in 2018, and by my count, that's seven years, five prime

1:25.0

ministers and one pandemic ago. I was super excited about the

1:29.4

initial low news in 2018. I leapt in and co-wrote that book. And since then, I have been

1:34.0

waiting impatiently for something to happen. There's a press officer in the Department of

1:38.6

Culture Media and Sport who is probably very bored with me regularly emailing her for progress.

1:43.9

Nothing to report was the regular

1:45.6

reply. But actually, here on History Extra, we did have an inkling that something was afoot, because

1:49.8

we had a few minutes with the British Prime Minister, Keir Stama, in May, this year at the time

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