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🗓️ 29 August 2023
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In recent years, the absolute level of government debt around the world has risen dramatically. The Covid emergency unleashed a huge wave of public-sector spending in 2020 and beyond. Meanwhile, spending remains high for other reasons, including public investment on climate and energy-related issues. So what does that mean for policy going forward? What does it mean for central banks tasked with controlling inflation? University of California at Berkeley economist Barry Eichengreen presented a paper on exactly this topic at this year’s Jackson Hole Economic Symposium. On this episode, we speak with Eichengreen about his research, why it's of importance to central bankers, and what history says about the prospects for fiscal consolidation.
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0:46.4 | Joe, we are here at Jackson Hole. And I know that so much of the focus is on the short-term outlook for rates. |
0:52.7 | But really, this is a gathering to talk about the longer-term framework of monetary policy. |
0:58.7 | Yeah, it's so funny because it is an academic conference. And there are all these big think |
1:05.6 | sort of conversations going on about the changing nature of the global economy. |
1:10.0 | Something like that, I think it's actually the theme. The structural changes in the global economy. |
1:14.1 | But 99% of the media interest in this whole event is like, are we going to get to rate hike in November or December? |
1:21.1 | But there is so much more. |
1:22.4 | Right. And one of the big themes that is emerging is this idea of living in a world where there is |
1:29.2 | more debt outstanding. And we've seen that sort of pop up a number of times in recent months. |
1:35.7 | Of course, you had Fitch downgrading, credit rating because partly of the public finance |
1:41.3 | trajectory, you've had volatility in the treasury market. You've had questions over whether or not |
1:47.8 | investors are still going to want to buy bonds at a time when there's enormous supply and also |
1:54.0 | the Fed out to raise rates and potentially bring down inflation. |
1:57.9 | Yeah, I would say there's sort of two dynamics that I think is really interesting here with |
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