Ballmer's Tree-Money, the Whistle-Blowers and the Document You've Been Waiting For: Kawhi-Gate, Part IX
Pablo Torre Finds Out
Pablo Torre
4.7 • 2.6K Ratings
🗓️ 7 March 2026
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
How did millions travel from the Clippers to Aspiration to Kawhi Leonard? Amin Elhassan and David Samson join Pablo — live onstage at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference, right where Adam Silver was just sitting — to examine new and extremely credible evidence.
Previously on PTFO:
• Part I: The Silent Superstar and the Rotten Apple Tree
• Part II: An Argument with Mark Cuban
• Part III: The Mystery Investor, the No-Show Payday and the "Smoking Gun"
• Part IV: Steve Ballmer, the Other Cuban and the $118 Million Infusion
• Part V: Steve Ballmer's "Inconceivable" Donation, the $20 Million Guarantee and a Head on a Spike
• Part VI: An IRL Showdown with Mark Cuban
• Part VII: The Briefcase, Ballmer's Social Network and Aspiration's House of Cards
• Part VIII: Uncle Dennis, Ballmer's $50 Million Sprint and the Side Deal That Wouldn't Die
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pablo Torre finds out, presented by eBay Live. |
| 0:03.6 | I am Pablo Torre, and today you're going to find out what this sound is. |
| 0:07.8 | Even to pay Clippers forward, Kwai Leonard, |
| 0:10.6 | and incentivized bonus to circumvent the NBA salary cap, |
| 0:14.6 | disguised as an organic marketing sponsorship agreement, |
| 0:18.5 | that's a smoking gun, ladies and gentlemen. |
| 0:20.9 | Right after this ad. |
| 0:28.4 | Hello, everyone. |
| 0:29.3 | My name is Drew Sullivan. |
| 0:30.4 | I'm a first year MBA here at MIT Sloan. |
| 0:32.7 | It's my pleasure to bring you our first edition of Pablo Tori finds out live at the Sloan sports analytics |
| 0:39.0 | conference today will be joined by david sampson host of nothing personal with david sampson |
| 0:45.0 | ameen alhassen NBA analyst and commentator at metallark media and serious xm radio and of course |
| 0:52.0 | pablo tori the host of pablo t, finds out. This episode will run for 45 |
| 0:56.9 | minutes. Please note that we will not have time for Q&A at the end of the episode. With that in mind, |
| 1:02.9 | I'll turn it over to you, Pablo. Thank you. Actual Naval Intelligence Officer. I've always wanted to have David actual naval intelligence officer. |
| 1:11.6 | I've always wanted to have David and Amin do a live show with me in a room named after a guy who has blocked me on Twitter. |
| 1:20.6 | Oh. |
| 1:21.6 | Shout out to the godfather Sabermetrichs Bill James, actually has blocked me on Twitter. |
| 1:27.8 | What'd you do? |
| 1:29.5 | That investigation is also ongoing. |
| 1:31.3 | I don't know. |
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