Bad News About Humane Warfare
The Political Orphanage
Andrew Heaton
4.9 • 1000 Ratings
🗓️ 3 August 2022
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
Civilization has made warfare more indirect, streamlined, technological, and distant.
What if making warfare nicer makes us less hesitant to begin conflicts, and slower to stop them?
Samuel Moyn is the author of "Humane: How the United States Abandoned Peace and Reinvented War."
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| 0:00.0 | Axis Powers occupied Greece from 1941 to 1944. |
| 0:05.0 | And on one of those occupied islands, a professional relationship of sorts developed between the |
| 0:10.4 | Native Greek mayor and the German commandant tasked with subduing the population |
| 0:15.5 | and harnessing the town's industry for the war effort. |
| 0:18.9 | Obviously the mayor didn't want Nazis to occupy Greece, let alone his island. But he understood that things would |
| 0:25.4 | go easier for everyone in the town if he and the commandant got along. And the commandant, though |
| 0:31.0 | a Nazi, was reasonably polite. |
| 0:35.0 | He likewise wanted the cooperation of local government |
| 0:38.7 | and therefore wanted a professional business relationship |
| 0:41.5 | with the mayor. |
| 0:43.0 | And once a week or so, they would meet to discuss the affairs of government, |
| 0:46.0 | but would linger over a cup of coffee afterwards, |
| 0:50.0 | engage in philosophical conversations, |
| 0:52.0 | the Greek mayor representing his worldview of Aristotle, |
| 0:56.4 | Socrates, Holy Scripture, and the great ethicists of the Church, the commandant opining about Nietzsche, will, and nationalism, and they began to develop a respect |
| 1:07.0 | for one another as peers. |
| 1:09.2 | All things considered, living under Nazi occupation, the Greek mayor got along pretty well with a |
| 1:14.3 | commandant he could even see them potentially becoming friends but one day he was |
| 1:20.7 | summoned to the commandant's office, who met him outside in the yard, and |
| 1:26.7 | gestured to a Greek man, blindfolded in standing against the wall. And he explained that this man was a guerrilla fighter and he had been apprehended |
| 1:38.0 | attempting to sabotage the German supply line. Further, the commandant wasn't going to tolerate insubordination from the conquered |
| 1:48.0 | locals under his jurisdiction, who no doubt were abetting the resistance. |
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