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Babbage: The Nobel winners explained

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The Economist

News & Politics, News

4.44.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2018

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Economist science correspondents break down the discoveries that won this year's Nobel prizes. Tristan Harris, a former design ethicist at Google, discusses the dangerous ways that the tech industry competes for our attention. And: the story of blackest fish in the deep ocean. Kenneth Cukier hosts

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Babbage on Economist Radio. I'm Kenneth Cuckier, a senior

0:05.8

editor at the Economist, and coming up on today's show, we'll be responding to

0:10.4

this year's Nobel Prize winners. The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences has today

0:15.3

decided to award 2018 Nobel Prize in Chemistry, Physiology or Medicine, Physics.

0:21.9

How could we make our technology more ethical? What if we didn't design

0:26.2

technology to maximize the story of social realities we put in front of people?

0:29.4

And why Dragonfish is the new black? It is essentially just as good at absorbing

0:35.8

light as the darkest material that we've ever managed to create.

0:41.0

But first, it's Nobel season. On Monday morning, to Suh Guhanzhou and James

0:47.6

Allison learn that they were this year's winners in the category of Physiology

0:52.0

or Medicine. They were recognized for their pioneering cancer therapies. The

0:56.8

Natasha Loders, our healthcare correspondent, she explains. Cancer

1:00.5

and Unotherapy is really an idea that scientists have been trying to pursue for

1:07.8

decades, which is to harness the power of the body's own immune system to fight

1:12.4

off and defeat cancers. So James Allison and Tzucco Hanzhou were initially

1:18.2

working on separate sides of the planet and not together. But both of them were

1:24.4

working on these protein molecules that stick out on the outside surface of

1:31.8

white blood cells called T-cells. And both of them independently speculated that

1:36.9

if you were to somehow block these molecules, which are now known as

1:42.1

checkpoint inhibitors, if you were to block them, you would release the T-cell

1:46.8

and allow it to attack cancer. The scale of the contribution made by both

1:52.6

these scientists is enormous. They've laid the foundations for immunotherapy,

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