Ayahuasca: WTF is up with DMT?

Science Vs

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Education, Science, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 14 December 2023

⏱️ 46 minutes

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DMT might be the weirdest drug in the already weird world of psychedelics. It’s the active ingredient in ayahuasca, but on its own, DMT can give you what’s nicknamed “the businessman’s trip” — a psychedelic journey that can be done and dusted inside 15 minutes. So what is this drug doing to our brains? And could it help people with depression? We catch up with Dr Chris Timmermann, Dr Graham Campbell, Michelle Baker Jones and Dr David Olson to find out. Find our transcript here: https://bit.ly/ScienceVsDMT Listeners, we need you! Tell us: What should we versus in 2024? Also, we’re looking for your questions on topics including sex, diet and menopause! In the U.S., leave us a voicemail at 774-481-1238 or send an email or voice memo to sciencevs@gimletmedia.com. Find us on Social Media! Instagram: @science_vs / TikTok: @wendyzukerman / Twitter: @sciencevs In this episode, we cover: (00:00) WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! (00:59) Celebs love ayahuasca (04:58) DMT (08:06) The ‘Rick and Morty’ Trip (13:30) Is DMT a portal? (15:42) DMT in our brains (21:53) DMT for depression? (29:33) Plastic psychedelics (36:10) Risks of DMT and ayahuasca (39:09) Where do we land on DMT? This episode was produced by Joel Werner, with help from Wendy Zukerman, Michelle Dang, Rose Rimler, and Nick DelRose. We’re edited by Blythe Terrell. Fact checking by Diane Kelly. Mix and sound design by Bumi Hidaka. Music written by Bumi Hidaka, Peter Leonard, and Bobby Lord. Thanks to all the researchers we spoke to including Dr Rick Strassman, Dr David Erritzoe, Dr Jimo Borjigin, Dr. Steven Barker, Dr Brandon Weiss, Dr Pascal Michael, Dr Michael Gatch, Professor Jerome Sarris, Professor Deepak Dsouza, Sean Chiddy, and David Nickles. Special thanks to Jack Weinstein and Hunter, Katie Vines, Finn and Jules, Christian Darío Vásquez, Valentina Powers, Zac Schmidt, the Zukerman Family and Joseph Lavelle Wilson. Science Vs is a Spotify Studios Original. Listen for free on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. Follow us and tap the bell for episode notifications. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Wendy Zuckerman and Jealousening to Science Versus.
0:04.0	Today is the last episode for a little bit, just for a little bit, we're going to be back in the
0:08.7	New Year.
0:09.7	We need a little break to work on some new episodes and while we're finding out what our new
0:14.8	episodes are going to be we'd love your help we want to know what you want us to
0:20.1	verses what have you been curious about we want want to hear it. So let us know all the ways to
0:25.3	contact us. There's a phone number, there's an email, there's social media, it's all in the show
0:30.0	notes. Now on top of just suggesting to us any idea that you have
0:34.3	We would also love to get voicemails of you guys on a couple of topics. So we want to know
0:41.7	if you have questions in particular about sex, diet, any questions on that, and also menopause. If you've experienced it, menopause, peri menopause. I want to know all about your symptoms and
0:54.6	any questions that you have. To get in touch, it's all in the show notes. All right now,
1:00.0	let's let the show begin. Today we are diving into the science of what is perhaps the weirdest and most mysterious
1:09.3	psychedelic drug.
1:11.3	I waska. drug, Iowusca. If you're into late night talk shows, you'll know that this drug is the talk of Hollywood.
1:23.0	You drank Iowasca tea.
1:26.0	It's like you can't swing a dead cat without some celebrity telling you a story
1:30.0	about this adventure they went on,
1:32.0	where they took Iowasca and things got wild.
1:35.6	There's Myly Cyrus.
1:37.4	I had a very great Iowasca experience.
1:40.4	Prince Harry, Megan Fox.
1:42.2	Do you guys know what Hiawaska is?
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