Welcome to Bankless. We're going to explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance

and sometimes that frontier is at a conference. And here we are at the very first day of

East Denver. The actual official East Denver event has not yet started but we are at the

Axelar Interop Summit where a bunch of interoperability conversations are taking place. So what's going

on behind me? And I pulled in a ton of guest interviews like I always do when I go to a conference,

so you don't have to go to the conferences that I always go to. And so here at the Interop Conference,

we have conversations with people in the Cosmos ecosystem. There's this brand new chain called Axelar,

which I'm learning quite a lot about. And then there's also conversations about layer twos and

the Ethereum layer one. So not only are we talking about the app chain mesh network thesis that

Cosmos has, we're also talking about the layer two and layer three and super chain and hyper fractal

scaling, chainy, chainyness. There's a lot of chains going on, but the interoperability summit is

all about how do we obfuse gay all the complexities of those chains. So in these interviews, you're going

to hear me talk to Sonny Oggerwald. You're going to hear me talk to Sergey of Axelar. We'll talk to

St. Rom of Eigenlayer. We'll talk to Steven Goldfeder of Arbitrum, anyone who's anyone really

working in the interoperability space. All of these conversations were super fun. They happened

right here. So you're going to see a person right here next to me as we talk to them here at the

Axelar Interop summit. So I want to thank the Axelar team for hosting me and all these interviews

that we were able to bang out so quickly here on the first day of East Denver. Bankless Nation,

I hope you enjoy them. But first, a moment to talk about some of these fantastic sponsors that

make all of these interviews possible. Crackin is our strategic sponsor for 2023. Why? Because Crackin

has been around for over 12 years and has proven itself to be deeply aligned with the crypto industry.

Trusted centralized crypto platforms are hard to come by these days, which makes the few remaining

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