Hi everyone and welcome to another episode of ancient warfare answers with me, Murray, your 10-minute fix of ancient warfare related stuff to take your week away from whatever happening in the modern world to think about ancient history.

And we've got a bit of a doozy for you today.

It's a question sent in by Greg about the Battle of Panium or Panium in 200 BC.

We'll get to that in a minute.

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magazine in digital form, and $10 gets you the magazine in print form. Right. Greg asks, I wanted to ask you what really happened at the Battle of Pian

200 BC and how good a tactician was Antiochus the third, otherwise known as Antiochus the Great.

There's some books you could recommend to me about this subject.

You and your team are fantastic or hadn't read that far so far.

Thanks, Greg.

And I hope my English is okay. Absolutely. Now, there are a couple of books on Antichus

the third. Can I remember off the top of my head? Have I got one sitting here? That's the third

Macedonian War. There is, there is an Antichus the third biography, which you can get.

Now, firstly, it's a fascinating thing about Polybius, who gives us the history of the battle.

But weirdly, by default, so he gives us a history of the battle by criticizing another historian called Zeno of Rhodes,

basically goes to town criticizing Zeno of Rhodes for all the mistakes he makes without saying what actually happened.

So he says, he says this and then this and then this.

Well, that's confusing, isn't it?

You're like, well, what actually happened then?

And he doesn't actually tell us.

And he does that on several occasions. One of his criticisms of Ephesus, I think it is, describing the battle of Lutra,

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