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AWA202 - Oliganthropia - the decline in Spartan Manpower

Ancient Warfare Podcast

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Society & Culture, Greece, Warfare, Ancient, Rome, History, Military

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🗓️ 3 June 2022

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Patron of the podcast James poses this question for Murray, 'The number of Spartan soldiers declined from its high of 10,000 to less than 2,000 around its defeat by Thebes due, in part, to increasing economic concentration and the resulting decline in the number of soldiers able to pay their mess contributions. Did Spartan society recognise this decline as a problem, and were there efforts to reverse this trend? If there were, why did they fail?'

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0:00.0

Hi everyone. Welcome to another ancient warfare answers, your weekly dose of ancient warfare.

0:07.7

With me, Murray Darm, I'm the assistant editor of Ancient Warfare magazine.

0:11.6

And today we're going to be answering a question about oligantropia, which is a fabulous word to say.

0:16.6

You should practice it now. It comes from Aristotle.

0:20.2

And before we get to that, of course, you can ask us questions if you would like to

0:23.8

about anything to do with ancient warfare.

0:26.1

And we'll have a go at answering it if we can.

0:29.6

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0:34.7

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0:36.1

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0:39.9

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0:45.6

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0:46.3

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0:48.3

Now, today's question is about oligantropia.

0:50.4

Now, if you don't know what oligantropia is, it is a phrase coined by Aristotle in the politics about the decline in Spartan manpower.

1:00.7

And it's something that the ancients recognized, well, the Athenians, not sure that the Spartans did.

1:08.8

And so the actual question is the number of Spartan soldiers declined

1:14.2

from its height of 10,000 to less than 2,000 around its defeat by Thebes due in part to

1:18.8

increasing economic concentration and the resulting decline in the number of soldiers able to pay

1:23.2

their mess contributions. Did Spartan society recognize this decline as a problem and were

1:28.7

their efforts to reverse this trend? If there were, why did they fail? That's from James O'Keefe.

1:36.3

Hello, James. Well, the first thing is, the Spartans, as far as we know, don't seem to have recognized this as an issue.

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