Hello and welcome to another episode of the Ancient Warfare Podcast.

With me today is the usual crew, Murray Dom, Mark Sassantis, Mark McCaffrey, and Mike Cole.

It's lots of M's today, except me.

My name is Jasper Wirtis.

I'm the editor of Ancient Warfare Magazine, and today

we're going to talk about the newest issue of the magazine, Issue 162, which talks about

hoplites, a topic we've done before, but there's more to say, and things that you could say about it

have probably changed since the last time that we talked about hot plights because I think

the rise of the hot plight was right you probably you have the archive and in your head

probably issue six six is it six one about a decade ago and we've talked about

a thesmos many times in the magazine um so we're not doing that today um maybe today we should just, we should just start, but what is the hop like?

Let's start with the basic. I mean, this seems like a very basic thing to begin with, but it does

bear repeating is we need to, because I still keep seeing it, we need to disabuse the hop lawn,

right, because the shield termination is the aspis. And the Opla is the full panoply, right? Because the shield termination is the aspis. And the Oplah is the full panoply, right?

And this can be misleading. But I really think the term is, because it's a political, social term,

as well as the military one, it's basically saying that the person who is enfranchised enough

to supply the gear so

that they can be a member of the belated vote, which sort of links it to the political reforms

that brought about the phalanx. And I know that Roel is going to cut my head off when he hears me

saying these things, but I really genuinely do believe them. So it really is the core heavy infantrymen

that dominates the end of the archaic period into the

beginning of the Hellenistic. Not just in Greece, by the way, but sort of in the Mediterranean basin,

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