Hello and welcome to another episode of the ancient warfare podcast.

We're between magazines this month.

So we are talking about one of our, well, another in-between topic, as we call them.

And we've been suggested we talk about the big developments or the big discoveries

of the last 15 or 20 years, what has really changed our view about anything in ancient warfare.

And I suggest that what we do is we just,

I'll just give everyone on the team a couple of minutes

to pitch their biggest discovery,

and then we can all pile on and see if they survive,

and then go on to the next one until we all cry in a corner.

Who would like to start?

After this roaring introduction, that's going to be...

I'll just go for Murray, because he's always ready to go anyway.

I think that the fact is that I think for ancient warfare,

there have been lots of

fines, obviously, that are revolutionary in the last 15 years.

Probably for me, my favorite one would be the discovery of a ship ruin that proves Herodotus

right yet again, which again is a bit of a trope that Herodotus makes all

these claims, gets poo-poohed for centuries, millennia, and then someone finds something that

proves, oh, actually, he may have been correct. Oh, wow, who knew? Well, it's like, well, yeah,

when are we going to learn that lesson? So that idea of, well, exactly.

And I think the interesting thing for that is, of course, that that always should change the

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