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AvTalk - Aviation Podcast

AvTalk Episode 306: The facts from Washington DC, Philadelphia, and Aktau

AvTalk - Aviation Podcast

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4.8911 Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of AvTalk, we review what we know so far about the mid-air collision between a US Army UH-60L Black Hawk helicopter and a PSA Airlines CRJ-700 in Washington DC, what we don’t know, and some of the avenues of inquiry investigators and authorities are following. We also discuss the crash of a Learjet 55 air ambulance shortly after takeoff near Philadelphia. And finally, we sort through the preliminary report on the crash of Azerbaijan Airlines flight 8243 near Aktau, Kazakhstan to begin to understand just what an incredible effort it was by the pilots to limp the E190 across the Caspian Sea.
Helpful links for this week’s episode

* Flight data and other helpful information regarding the crash in Washington DC
* Flight data regarding the crash near Philadelphia
* Flight data and the preliminary investigative report regarding Azerbaijan Airlines flight 8243

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to episode 306 of AvTalk. I am Ian Petchinic here as always with

0:15.1

Jason Rabinowitz. Yeah, as you can expect, this is not going to be a happy episode.

0:23.0

It's been a tragic week.

0:25.7

It's been a terrible week across the board, but particularly in the aviation industry,

0:31.1

it's been just a downright, terrible, terrible week.

0:35.1

Our plan for this episode is to give you the facts, give you the details,

0:40.3

and have a discussion about what we know, what we don't know, and not a whole lot more than that.

0:46.7

We have three topics. We're going to stick to those topics today. I think you all know

0:51.4

where we're starting off, but Ian take it away from here.

0:55.1

Yeah, we began the year in not a good way, and we'll talk about that story at the end of the episode.

1:01.8

But we will start with how we ended the month, which was with two crashes within three days in the United States on the East Coast. So we'll start with the midair

1:13.0

collision in Washington, D.C., between a U.S. Army H-60 Black Hawk helicopter and a PSA Airlines

1:21.6

CRJ 700 operating on behalf of American Eagle. The incident occurred at 8.48 p.m. Eastern Standard time

1:29.5

as the Black Hawk was traveling north to south along the Potomac River on the transition from

1:35.9

helicopter route 1 to route 4, and we'll come back to those helicopter routes in a moment.

1:41.8

The CRJ was on approach to runway 3-3 after having shifted its approach

1:47.2

from a runway 0-1 approach to allow for departing traffic on runway 0-1. The NTSB has been on

1:57.3

scene and has recovered the recorders from all three aircraft, and we got an initial

2:04.5

briefing on the recorder data for the CRJ 700, the 3rd of February, I believe. And that update

2:16.3

provided us with information about the altitude at which the

2:19.3

CRJ was when the collision occurred. So the NTSB says that using a synthesis of ADSB,

2:26.8

radar, and flight data recorded data, the aircraft was at 325 feet plus or minus 25 feet at the time of the collision.

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