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The Energy Blueprint Podcast

Avoid the Toxic 5 if you have long COVID with Dr. Evan Hirsch

The Energy Blueprint Podcast

Ari Whitten

Chronicfatigue, Energy, Hypothyroidism, Fatigue, Health & Fitness, Alternative Health, Chronicfatiguesyndrome, Adrenalfatigue, Howtoincreaseenergy, Adrenals, Hashimotos

4.7 • 751 Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2024

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, I’m speaking with chronic fatigue expert Dr. Evan Hirsch in his third appearance on the Energy Blueprint Podcast. 

In this episode, we talk about how his approach to chronic fatigue and ME/CFS has evolved over the years and how he’s now working with patients who have long COVID. He also describes what he calls “The Toxic 5” and how these are at the root of many fatigue issues.

In this podcast, Dr. Hirsch and I discuss:

  • The “Toxic 5” primary reasons Dr. Hirsch believes people struggle with chronic fatigue

  • The crucial importance of addressing toxicity, protocol simplification, and brain retraining in ME/CFS

  • How long-term infections—now, including COVID—contribute to fatigue and their interplay with other root causes

  • The usefulness of testing and how much weight you should (or shouldn’t!) place on certain test results

  • Dr. Hirsch’s experience with ozone therapy, hyperbaric therapy, and IV vitamin C and why his stance has shifted over the years

  • One very surprising (and scary) statistic on mold and two key ways to get mycotoxins out of your body

  • The safest way to rid the body of heavy metals and the dire consequences people suffer if they aren’t ready to detox properly 

  • The most problematic heavy metal and Dr. Hirsch’s recommendations for how to avoid it

  • His approach to long COVID and the problem with COVID persistence, i.e., spike proteins remaining in the body in a latent state

  • “Brain retraining” (a technique Dr. Hirsch learned about from his patients!) and the powerful combination of addressing the mind AND body for people with chronic fatigue 

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

When I first started, it was all about finding all the causes that an individual had.

0:04.6

You know, I knew from my functional medicine and environmental medicine training that that was

0:08.2

going to be really important.

0:09.8

But what I didn't realize was that they didn't, they weren't all weighed equally.

0:14.4

You know, so when somebody had deficiencies, you know, I kind of categorized the causes

0:18.9

into deficiencies and toxicities. And at this point, we're looking at about 38 of those.

0:24.2

But really the most important ones are what I now call the toxic five, which are a combination of the heavy metals, chemicals, molds, infections, and nervous system dysfunction or trauma.

0:38.4

So before those were in there, but they weren't as important and they weren't, I didn't see

0:43.2

them as kind of like the root root cause of all this stuff.

0:46.4

Hey, this is Ari.

0:47.3

Welcome back to the Energy Blueprint Podcast with me today for the, I believe the third time

0:53.0

is my friend, Dr. Evan Hirsch, who is a world-renowned

0:56.1

fatigue expert, best-selling author, and professional speaker. He's the creator of the Energy

1:01.6

MD method, the science-backed and clinically proven four-step process to resolving chronic fatigue,

1:08.1

MECFS, and long COVID naturally.

1:15.0

Through his best-selling book, podcast, and 100% online practice,

1:17.8

he's helped thousands of people around the world. And in this episode, we're going to be talking all about his approach to resolving

1:24.1

chronic fatigue, MECFS, and long COVID, as well as kind of reflecting back on

1:31.3

years ago when I met him, I think five or six years ago and some of the initial podcast that we

1:36.8

did at that time and some of the things that he and I talked about in private conversations about

1:41.9

his approach to dealing with MECFS and how his views

1:48.0

and how his approach to certain things to the treatment of MECFS and chronic fatigue has changed

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