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The Times Tech Podcast

Avalanche Insights' Michiah Prull: “Measuring oomph”

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 23 October 2020

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Michiah Prull, founder of Avalanche Insights, to talk about setting up a company after the 2016 election (3:00), starting as a community organiser (5:00), the problem with messaging (6:30), using AI to understand emotions (8:35), finding the right people (11:00), how an algorithm intuits human motivations (13:15), crafting a message (15:45), why the left is bad at it (19:45), fighting polarisation (22:30), levelling the misinformation/information playing field (26:00), whether he will go corporate (27:30), what went wrong in 2016 (31:30), the future of elections (33:00), the outlook for November 3 (35:45), and the evolution of the public’s view of climate change (37:35).

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0:00.0

Yo!

0:01.0

Technology.

0:02.0

What is it all about?

0:04.0

We are moving towards a degree of data sophistication and communication and micro-targeting

0:10.0

sophistication that really blurs the line from marketing to manipulation and that those of us working in the political space, you know, should be thoughtful of.

0:27.1

Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley.

0:28.5

Thank you for tuning in.

0:33.5

I'm your host, Danny Ford's and the West Coast correspondent for the Sunday Times.

0:36.2

We're in the home stretch, y'all.

0:39.3

Two weeks till Election Day.

0:43.9

Now, I know a lot of my listeners are not on these shores,

0:46.7

but I also know a lot of people really around the world have a great interest in seeing what happens

0:49.4

and, in particular, seeing Trump tossed out on his ear.

0:53.7

Am I biased?

0:55.4

Of course I am, but it's my show.

0:57.9

So there you go.

0:59.2

Anyhow, as I promised that a month ago, as we got closer to the big day,

1:03.3

I said I'd be having on more companies that are kind of in the political realm

1:06.9

to give you guys a sense of some of the machinery that is really pulling the strings,

1:12.0

not just in this election, but in elections, again, kind of around the world and electioneering

1:17.0

and kind of democracy more broadly, even non-democracy, it's just kind of how this is working,

1:22.5

what role technology is playing. And so with that in mind, this week I had on Makaya Proul, who is the founder of a

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