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The Rise and Fall of Ruby Franke

Law&Crime | Wondery

Society & Culture, Ruby Franke, #Jodi Hildebrandt, True Crime

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🗓️ 24 March 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

When Luigi Mangione was arrested for allegedly shooting UnitedHealthcare’s CEO, it sent shockwaves across the country, but the aftermath was even more unsettling. While mainstream media condemned the act as a brutal murder, a very different narrative was taking shape online—one that questioned the true villains in this story. Was the alleged shooter a violent extremist, or had he become an unwitting symbol of something much larger?

Hosted by Law&Crime's Jesse Weber, LUIGI is more than just a true crime investigation—it's an exploration of a uniquely American moment. As this case continues to unfold in real-time, this series steps beyond the headline-grabbing "crime of the decade" angle to examine the cultural reckoning it has triggered. At its core, LUIGI captures a shifting America at a tipping point. From the public's growing disillusionment with corporate power to the radicalization of online discourse,—this is a story about what happens when the powerless begin to push back. LUIGI dissects the moral, political, and cultural divide at the heart of this case. Wherever this case goes, Law&Crime will provide you with all angles of the case; from those who have condemned the suspect and the crime, to others celebrating the act as revolutionary.

With exclusive interviews and in-depth coverage, we challenge you to decide: Is the status quo enough, or is it time for a cultural reckoning?

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0:00.0	Wonderry Plus subscribers can binge all episodes of the rise and fall of Ruby Frankie early and ad-free.
0:06.6	Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts.
0:11.2	In the early hours of December 4th, 2024, CEO Brian Thompson stepped out onto the streets of Midtown Manhattan.
0:19.3	In an instant, one of the most powerful men in the
0:21.9	healthcare industry was dead. And the suspect, Luigi Mangione, became one of the most divisive
0:29.6	figures in modern criminal history. I'm Jesse Weber, host of Law and Crimes, Luigi, a new podcast
0:37.1	that is more than a true crime investigation.
0:40.1	We dare to look beyond the crime and the accused and explore a uniquely American moment
0:45.2	that could change the country forever.
0:48.1	As this case unfolds, we go beyond the Crime of the Decade headline to explore its
0:53.7	cultural reckoning. This is the story
0:56.2	of a growing cultural divide in America, where mainstream media was quick to condemn the killing,
1:01.2	the public reaction, particularly on social media, has been unexpected. In a nation divided by
1:08.4	greed, power, and desperation, the killing of a CEO has sparked a long
1:13.3	overdue conversation and revealed a nation on the brink. Wherever this case goes, law and crime
1:19.3	promises to provide you with all angles of the case. With exclusive interviews, courtroom documents,
1:25.2	and in-depth coverage, law and crime presents all sides of the
1:28.7	case, challenging you to decide. Is the status quo enough? Or is it time for a cultural reckoning?
1:35.9	I'm about to play you a clip from the first episode of Law and Crimes Luigi,
1:39.7	available exclusively on Wondery Plus on March 24th.
1:44.7	A falsified New Jersey driver's license under the name Mark Rosario hinted at an attempt to hide
1:51.3	his true identity, the same alias he had used when checking into a New York City hostel before
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