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Author Debriefing: The Good Spy: The Life and Death of Robert Ames

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Education, News, History

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2014

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Pulitzer Prize- winning biographer Kai Bird gives the inside story of his compelling portrait of the remarkable life and death of one of the most important operatives in CIA history, Robert Ames. Through Bird’s personal connection to Ames’ family, he gained access to his personal correspondence and range of contacts. Eventually more than forty retired CIA and Mossad officers told Bird their memories of Ames. Those seasoned spies all seemed to feel that they had been waiting for someone to tell the incredible story of Bob Ames, and how he carefully cultivated his ten-year relationship with Ali Hassan Salameh, Yasir Arafat’s intelligence chief. This highly clandestine relationship between the CIA and the PLO planted the seeds for the Oslo peace process. Get the book: http://www.spymuseumstore.org/the-good-spy-book.html#.Vz3puPkrIdU

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Hello. Hello and welcome to an author debriefing from the International Spy Museum.

0:19.0

I'm Dr. Vince Houghton, the Museum's historian and curator.

0:23.0

Here at the museum, we get the most interesting authors, including journalists,

0:27.0

scholars, former spies, and intelligence officers coming in to speak with our visitors

0:32.0

and answer questions about

0:33.8

their latest works dealing with espionage, intelligence, and other national security

0:38.0

issues. Please join me in listening to another of our selected hour-long

0:42.3

author debriefings.

0:44.0

Good afternoon and welcome to the International Spy Museum.

0:47.0

My name is Vince Houghton. I'm the historian at the Spy Museum

0:50.0

and it's my great pleasure to bring to you today a prolific author, a biographer,

0:55.9

Kai Bird, who I have been following on a personal note for the length of my short

1:02.1

academic career. It seemed to have gone parallel in many respects.

1:06.2

We did plan this, of course.

1:09.1

I started studying U.S. foreign policy, so Kai's earliest two books on the Bundy Brothers and on

1:16.4

John McCloy were required reading for me as I went through grad school. As I narrowed

1:22.1

my focus I started studying nuclear

1:23.8

intelligence and nuclear history and conveniently in the mid 2000s this book was

1:28.9

published American Prometheus I'm co-authored with Martin Sherwin, Pulitzer Prize winning.

1:35.0

Once you're done with The Good Spy, I highly recommend you take a look at American Prometheus.

1:40.0

And then now, of course, I work at the Spy Museum and you write a book about spies.

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