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Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Australia’s Shadow Treasurer, Angus Taylor

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps

Josh Szeps

Comedy Interviews, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Comedy

4.6863 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Angus Taylor is the Shadow Treasurer of Australia and a key figure of the Opposition, the centre-right Liberal Party.

A former cabinet minister, businessman and Rhodes scholar, he's often discussed as a future prime minister. Opinion polls put his party's return to power in the May election as a 50/50 bet.

Josh sat down with the Shadow Treasurer to discuss innovation, productivity, nuclear power, and how annoying it is to do your taxes.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Gahy, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. And at precisely 7.30 p.m., Australian Eastern

0:09.7

Daylight Time, this Tuesday, the 25th of March, 2025, the Treasurer will deliver Australia's

0:17.5

budget. That may sound boring and dry, but in fact, it's kind of Australian

0:22.9

politics as big night of nights. It's a bit like the State of the Union is in America.

0:27.0

People gather at fancy suiets. There are balls and people get dressed up and everyone wants

0:32.2

to shake the treasurer's hand and the Prime Minister's hand and they listen to the speech,

0:35.4

and then they go out and drink too much and fondle each other until the wee hours of the morning.

0:40.3

The journalists, that is, the politicians would never stoop to such behaviour.

0:44.8

And the person who delivers this address is not, unlike the State of the Union in the United States, the head of government.

0:51.3

The person who delivers the address is the treasurer, which is a very interesting kind of role in Australian politics. The treasurer is not merely

1:00.0

the Treasury Secretary. The treasurer is also the person who basically has to defend the government's

1:07.3

economic policies every single day in Parliament. This person is a bit like,

1:13.3

if you're a total political wonk in America, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee,

1:18.5

combined with the Treasury Secretary, combined with the vice president. Frequently, treasurers go on

1:24.1

to become prime ministers. They are often seen as the prime minister in waiting

1:27.5

in their party if they are ambitious and high performing, and today's guest certainly is.

1:33.8

And much like the vice president is not really involved in the day-to-day running of the US government,

1:39.9

the deputy prime minister is not really that fundamental in guiding government policy.

1:45.5

The person who is is the treasurer.

1:48.6

Now, this particular budget night is particularly important because we're coming up to an election.

1:53.4

It's probably going to take place in May.

1:56.0

We are going to find out this week or next the precise date.

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