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Austin Allred is the co-founder and CEO of Lambda School, a full computer science education that's free until you get a

high paying job. In this conversation, we covered Y Combinator, the challenges of building a startup,

what it takes to train a computer engineer, why the current student debt problem is so bad,

and how Lambda School is helping hundreds of people avoid debt and build a better career.

I really enjoyed this conversation and think that Austin's work is important.

I hope you find this conversation as engaging and fun as I did.

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All right, guys, I've got Austin here,

super excited about this conversation. We got a lot to cover everything, education. So before we get started, I don't think, I actually don't even know what your background is pre-LAMDA.

Sure. Yeah, I grew up in Utah.

Did a bunch of crazy stuff when I was younger.

Ended up working in...

Wait, hold on back. What crazy stuff?

So I'm Mormon. So I served a mission in eastern Ukraine, came back, dropped out of school, went to China,

vagabonded around China.

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