Hey everyone and welcome to the All It Takes is a Gold Podcast, the best place in the

entire world, including all of Canada, to learn how to build new thoughts, new actions

and new results.

I'm your host John Akef, and today I'm joined by Ryan Pender, who's that?

I'm so, so glad you asked.

Ryan Pender is an executive producer at ITV America, where he's been a lead creative on the

history channel show alone for the past eight seasons.

Prior to alone, Pender's expertise in adventure and documentary based programming includes

series that have premiered on the science channel, the history channel, national geographic,

maybe you've heard of that one, and discovery.

Before his ten years at ITV America, Ryan documented life during the Iraq war while

embedded with troops.

He's also produced projects for Fuse, Comedy Central and Vice.

If you've never seen the show alone, I highly recommend it.

It's an amazing show, it's absolutely crazy.

They take ten people, they drop them off by themselves, they have to film themselves,

there's not a camera crew with them, they have to film themselves, come up with a shelter

and figure out how to eat, and the person who lasts the longest wins half a million

dollars.

What's really interesting is they don't tell the people when somebody's quit.

You have this little sat phone, you can tap out, so at any minute there's this psychological

pressure to tap out, and when you tap out, a boat comes and picks you up, or a helicopter,

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