meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

Astroturf and Cancer

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture

4.211K Ratings

🗓️ 21 April 2023

⏱️ 62 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

At first, it sounded too good to be true: grass that never died, never wilted, and never gave way to weeds. Major league baseball hailed it as one of the greatest innovations in the world of professional sports. As thousands and thousands of 'astroturf' fields sprouted up across the US and Canada -- and then spread to playgrounds -- adults and children alike enjoyed seas of endless, verdant green. Until, that is, the reports came in. In today's episode, Ben, Matt and Noel slide headlong into the home base of a troubling conspiracy decades in the making: Does artificial turf give you cancer?

They don't want you to read our book.: https://static.macmillan.com/static/fib/stuff-you-should-read/

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

I'm Jay Shetty and on my podcast on purpose, I've had the honor to sit down with some of the most incredible hearts and minds on the planet.

0:07.0

Oprah, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Hart, Louis Hamilton, and many, many more.

0:12.0

On this podcast, you get to hear the raw real-life stories behind their journeys and the tools they used, the books they read, and the people that made a difference in their lives so that they can make a difference in hours.

0:23.0

Listen to on purpose with Jay Shetty on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Join the journey soon.

0:54.0

Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. My name is Noel. They call me Ben. We're joined as always with our super producer, Paul, Mission Control Decades.

1:03.0

Most importantly, you are you. You are here and that makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. Weirdly enough, this episode is a very baseball centric at the beginning.

1:18.0

But look, if you don't love baseball, if you're not a baseball nut like our pal Max Williams, never fear. Don't let that dissuade you.

1:25.0

Because fellow conspiracy realists, you may recall in an earlier part of our weekly strange news segment, Matt, you brought a pretty disturbing story about some revelations related to baseball and long-term health consequences.

1:44.0

Well, it's impossibilities, right? There's no. We came away from that episode on with the understanding that there is no proof that there's a link between what we're going to talk about today and that specific type of brain cancer, but right.

2:00.0

It doesn't look good. Yeah, it's like playing it's like playing clue, you know, in the board game clue where you have to have three cards so you can name the person, the weapon and the place. Yeah, there are about two cards in here. I would say two and a half. And that's just being diplomatic two toes down. Yeah. Yeah, not 10 toes.

2:20.0

But what we found in the research, like the full research for this episode is that it goes way beyond baseball. Yes, the implications are far past the stadium. Here are the facts. First Astro turf. It's a cool name. It sounds vaguely space related. But what is this stuff? It might be interesting for for a lot of us listening today to learn that Astro turf is a brand name.

2:46.0

It is one example of a thing that exists under multiple manufacturers, right? Astro turf sexually proprietary eponym. We're talking about this a little bit off air. We were naming a couple Paul shouted out popsicle from our brain stuff days. What is a proprietary eponym? Yeah, I mean, it's basically it's a brand essentially it's the name of a product that ends up being so ubiquitously known.

3:16.0

That it kind of becomes the stand in for all other, you know, sort of I guess you could call them imitators, but it really does become sort of a case of parallel thinking where the product is so ubiquitous that probably it was almost invented.

3:29.0

Simultaneously by multiple parties, but the one with the name that stuck is the one that kind of became the one and then everyone else just sort of refers to the other ones by that same name like Xerox, for example, which is just you know photocopying, but it is people will just say run Xerox of this or even Google, Google it, Google it or Coke in some places just refers to a carbonated drink, you know, I need a band aid.

3:57.4

Yeah, that's what that's a great example of my thingy. I will, I will say I will share one example, an old war story that Matt and Noel you guys have already heard. I first ran into proprietary epitoms while working on a show called stuff of genius kid show about inventors.

4:16.0

I work too. You yet that's right. I forgot gosh how many shows have we worked on together met a lot a lot. Yeah, so so Matt was doing the hard work on stuff of genius. I was I was also there and the Tyler and Tyler clang yes Tyler clang a good friend of the show who actually he's kind of a Jerry he doesn't appear on air that often.

4:44.0

But yeah, so I first at least learned about proprietary epitoms when I learned that the.

4:50.5

The makers of frisbee are pretty litigious lot less fun a lot a lot less fun than maybe the image would imply if it is not a frisbee brand frisbee it can only be called a flying disc and they will find you.

5:06.6

So so Astro turf then is the most popular example the street name for a product a kind of product a genre of product that exists all over the Western world it was it's weird because we can get the origin story of inventions it can be kind of tough to sus out.

5:28.0

Who made what because to your point know there's so much parallel thinking that can occur.

5:33.8

People I good inventors identify a problem and then try to reverse engineer right work back from the problem toward the solution.

5:42.4

So it shouldn't surprise us that there are a couple of foggy parts about the Astro turf or synthetic turf origin story but we do know it was not originally named Astro turf.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from iHeartPodcasts, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of iHeartPodcasts and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.