The Athletic. Hello, I'm Mark Chapman. Welcome to the Athletic Football Podcast, Adam Crafton and David Ornstein are

with us and coming up today we'll discuss the dismissals of two managers in

the Premier League this weekend with both Norwich and Aston Villa deciding to make

changes. We also need a positive story so we'll talk West Ham and David Moyes who last week coached his

one thousand game and on Sunday saw his side beat Liverpool to go third in the Premier League.

Let's start with Aston Miller then who this weekend of sack their head coach Dean Smith after over three years in charge. They'd lost five games on the bounce.

Greg Evans is the Aston Villa writer for the athletic. He joins us. on the band's

band's is the Aston Villa writer for the athletic he joins us all now was this a shock

Greg?

I don't think you can ever call it a shock in football these days can you it just

seems that once a team loses a couple of games three or four

games that there always seems to be a crisis building the fact it was five

games for Villa didn't surprise me what happened next I suppose the biggest shock

was just fillers form in general how it turned from I think

that's time I was on Astonville had just won at Man United so in the last four or five weeks

things have changed rapidly and that's what cost downainsby his job unfortunately.

I thought that the wording of the statement was very interesting because it referred to this year,

not this season, this year. And if you look at the stats I think they've lost 18

this year and that's the joint most in the Premier League so to to give the bill aboard their due and their owners

they're due before we get on to Dean Smith, it feels like they're looking at

more than just this immediate run of five defeats?

Yeah, it certainly does, doesn't it?

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