All right, Alexander, we had a ruling in the Assange case.

On the surface, it looks like it's a positive for Assange, but maybe it's not a positive for Assange.

What's your take on this ruling?

Is it a positive?

Is it not a positive or is it a mixed bag? What are your thoughts?

I'm very, very uneasy about this ruling. Now, if you go back to the hearing itself, we did a video

directly afterwards. I said that this is the best conducted hearing up to now

that had happened in any of the cases, any part of any of the cases,

involving Assange that has taken place in London.

The judges were behaving like I expect judges to behave.

They were asking the right kind of questions.

They were skeptical about some of the arguments they were getting from the American side.

They seemed to think that there was issues that needed to be looked at on appeal.

I said that the pointers were that they would grant Assange leave to appeal and it's leave to appeal from the decision by Judge Berica at the

Westminster magistrates court. Judge Berica said that he could be extradited to the United States,

that the Americans had made out a case, and the British authorities had made out a case,

that justified, legally, his extradition to the United States.

And I said that, I've always said that, I thought that decision was wrong.

And it looked to me as if the judges at this latest hearing might think that the case, the decision of Judge Baritzer, was wrong and would grant leave to appeal. Now that is what they've done.

They've granted leave to appeal. They've said that Assange has an arguable case on three out of

nine grounds of appeal and they are the important ones. But having done that, they've then gone back

and what they've given with one hand,

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