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Welcome to the Athletic Football Show. Today's Monday, August 1st. I'm Robert Mays,

great show for you guys today. A little bit later, our Cowboys Writer at the Athletic

Show. I'm Ashota. I'm going to be joining us for a check-in from Dallas Cowboys Training

Camp, which is where I was on Friday in Oxnard. I'm here in San Francisco now. I'll be at

Niners Camp a little bit later on Monday. Very much looking forward to that. Before we continue

with the camp conversations, though, I am thrilled to welcome my good friend, Metro Schwartz.

I'm doing pretty good. It's a lot easier this time of year than it used to be. You're probably

feeling pretty good right now. Are the pads on yet? Are they going on tomorrow?

Or today? I'm Monday. No, they go on Monday. It's this new ramp up period. It's so odd.

It's like they have five days and they just progressively go from 70 minutes to 80 minutes

to 90 or whatever it is. And then pads come on. I think the first practice has to be like

an hour 40 or something. The time limits are very aggressive on top of how much ramp up

period there is. So camp looks a lot different than from when I was doing it. But then again,

I entered right after the 2011 CBA. I never had to do two a day. So I consider myself

pretty lucky in that regard.

When you talk to guys who did play during that period, what kind of sense did you get about

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