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Lovely to have you back on the show, Dr. Matt Bruninger and Isaac Wicker.

Yes. You got it. Great to have you.

Happy to be here, man. Yeah. Did you say it's great to have me here?

No, he says, he said, happy to be here.

Oh, okay. Actually, there's a thought. What if one day I interview you? We just flip the script. I would love to do that. It doesn't have to be me actually. You should

just know, you interview me and I'll be the therapist and I'll give answers and then you can

have three lights, green, yellow, red. That was terrible. Please nobody listened to that.

That was not bad. I like that idea, actually. Have you ever been interviewed? Yeah.

Like on your own, like to the degree that you interview people, have you ever been interviewed?

I mean, not for three hours. Yeah. But I tend to, I just didn't interview the other day and I found that I was asking questions in the interview because I was so used to it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome.

That's great to have you. Where are you from? I'm from Minnesota. So right now I'm in right outside of St. Paul, Oakdale.

And what are you doing in Studentville?

I'm visiting Matt to do some work and visiting you.

Yep. So, yeah, we've been partners for over a year now and building some really cool stuff.

So, yeah, we've done most of our work online, and so this is only the third time I've

been with him in person, that we've been working together for almost over a year.

We met at the Catholic Psychotherapy Association, I guess last year, and Isaac was there with his wife and his little baby and we're in the

back of a talk together. And we ended up getting paired together for like this exercise. And I

usually hate that stuff. I just, it's like forced friendship. Forced friendship. And I don't

like it. But it was really easy to do with Isaac. And then I bumped into him again.

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