When you go into creation, who you are always wins.

And if you're not creating from what you really actually want to create,

if you're just following a path that other people have charted because it looks easy

and you have the right resources to do it,

who you are is eventually going to shine through and demand you to be whoever that is

that is inside of you.

And I think that's what inspired me to write this book.

You've gotten great at divine working, but what about divine living? Welcome to the divine living podcast. I'm your host, Gina DeVie. You're not alone in wanting more. And here at the

Divine Living podcast, you can expect to be part of conversations from women

like us who unapologetically dream big and are obsessed with manifesting our most fabulous lives.

The conversation starts now.

Darling, the time has arrived.

We are with the one and only famous Ashley Stahl of Chapter 18 from The Audacity to Be Queen.

You have read about her in the book and now you get the chance to experience this just extraordinary supernova, so super smart, but completely so lovable and

authentic in the flesh.

Ashley Saul, welcome to the Divine Living podcast.

Oh, what an intro.

I love you.

I'm really excited to be a part of your show.

And I know you're just motivating so many

women and giving them so much with this. Well, thank you. Thank you. And, you know, we are birds of a feather

because you do the same with your TED Talks, with your new book that's coming out. We're going to get

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