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Hey y'all, welcome to Biscuits and Jam from Southern Living.

I'm your host, Sid Evans.

And in this episode, I had a great conversation with

Ashley Shanti, who recently won a James Beard Award for her beautiful and thought-provoking

cookbook called Our South, Black Food Through My Lens. Ashley is the chef and owner of Good Hot Fish,

a counter-service spot in Asheville, North Carolina,

inspired by the spirit of old school southern fish camps. Despite her current hometown in the

mountains, she's been connected to the coast from the very beginning. She was born in St. Mary's, Georgia,

just north of the Florida border while her parents were at a family wedding.

And she grew up on a lake in Virginia where she developed a reverence for the water and a love for fish fries.

But her cooking isn't just about seafood.

Her passion for all the cuisines of the South, and there are many, as she'll tell you,

and her deep interest in Appalachian food ways have shaped the way she cooks, writes, and sees the region.

We'll talk about all that, plus how a fast food joint helped her prepare to open a high-volume restaurant,

the many women who've inspired her journey, and the secret

ingredients behind what sounds like an amazing fried fish sandwich. All that and what her father taught

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