Art of the Steal – Could Trump run for a third term?

Oh God, What Now?

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Society & Culture, News, Politics

4.6 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 12 August 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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The Constitution expressly forbids anyone from seeking a third term as US President. But since when did that ever stop Trump from doing anything? Ex-congressional staffer turned politics professor at George Washington University Casey Burgat joins Guardian leader writer Rafael Behr and Andrew Harrison to look at the many weird ways Trump could cling to the White House… the hidden rivalries within MAGA… and what happens to a personality cult when (if) the personality vacates the scene. • Don’t miss Talk ’90s To Me: Nirvana with Miranda Sawyer. • Buy Casey’s book We Hold These “Truths” through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund OGWN by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. • Get our exclusive NordVPN deal ⁠here⁠. It’s risk-free with Nord’s 30-day money back guarantee! ESCAPE ROUTES • Raf went to see Erasure at Brighton Pride. • Casey went to see The Lumineers live. • Andrew recommends Fantastic Four: First Steps and the first couple of songs from Saint Etienne’s final album International. • Advertisers! Want to reach smart, engaged, influential people with money to spend? (Yes, they do exist). Some 3.5 MILLION people download and watch our podcasts every month – and they love our shows. Why not get YOUR brand in front of our influential listeners with podcast advertising? Contact ads@podmasters.co.uk to find out more www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Andrew Harrison with Rafael Behr. Audio and video production by Chris Jones. Music by Cornershop. Art direction: James Parrett. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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