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I'm John Robbins, and joining me on How Do You Coke this week is the musician Justin Hawkins.

How big a meatloaf fan, I am? A big meatloaf fan. I remember he came over to me, grabbed me and he squeezed me,

and he said to me, I want you to think of me as your father. And he had like sausage on his breath.

So every time I smell sage and pork, I think of meatloaf. So that's how do you cope with me, John

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