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Arnold Kling on Reforming Government and Expertise

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🗓️ 4 October 2021

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Economist and author Arnold Kling talks about improving government regulation with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. Kling suggests ways to improve the administrative state--the agencies and regulatory bodies that often write the regulations that they enforce. The conversation concludes with Kling's idea for holding public intellectuals accountable for their pronouncements.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, Conversations for the Curious, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.

0:07.8

I'm your host, Russ Roberts of Shalem College in Jerusalem and Stanford University's Hoover

0:12.6

Institution. Go to econtalk.org where you can subscribe, comment on this episode and

0:17.8

find links down there information related to today's conversation. You'll also find our archives,

0:23.2

but every episode we've done going back to 2006. Our email address is mail at econtalk.org. We'd

0:30.3

love to hear from you. Today is September 14th, 2021. I guess, is economist and author Arnold

0:41.8

Kling, Arnold blog for many years at Econlog, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty, as is Econ Talk.

0:48.4

And he currently writes provocative essays at Substack, which I recommend. This is his 17th appearance.

0:57.6

At Econ Talk, he was last year in April of 2020. We took a fresh look at his book, The Three Languages of Politics.

1:04.4

We have two topics for today. If we get to him, we'll see. They're both innovative ideas that Arnold has,

1:10.1

one for improving government and one for improving our assessment of expertise,

1:15.1

our own and public discourse. I would add, Arnold, welcome back to econ Talk.

1:20.0

Thanks for us. Great to be here. We're going to start with this

1:25.4

interesting idea you have for making government more effective.

1:31.9

In recent years, there's been a lot of talk about what is sometimes called the administrative state,

1:36.0

the part of the government that's regulatory and does a lot of administrative stuff that has gotten

1:42.4

quite large over the last 50 years. Often, it doesn't work quite as well as we want it like.

1:49.6

Some people think that's featured on a bug. You don't. What can we do to make it better?

1:56.7

Let me start by trying to create a contrast between what I'll call naïve libertarianism and what

2:05.6

Tyler Cowan calls state capacity libertarianism, which sounds a bit like an oxymoron.

2:15.6

Basically, a naïve libertarian, as I term it, is somebody who just wants the state to be as small as

2:21.1

possible. Just protect property, keep the piece, don't do anything else. Keep the state in this small box.

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