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Everybody is so siloed that it took someone like me to interview the researchers over here,

the experts over here, the designers who have gotten sick from just designing

and touching the clothing, the garment workers,

to pull it all together into one view and say,

we have a problem here.

How can I help?

How can I be useful in ending needless suffering?

Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

We have to organize a social movement.

We have an opportunity to lead by example versus just talking, hot air.

I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually you could change.

The people are the ones that can make the change.

Welcome back, everybody, to change agents, an Ironclad original, proudly presented by Montana Knife Company.

Today's episode is about the toxic chemicals in clothing that are making people sick.

And if you're anything like me, before this conversation, I had put almost no thought, if no thought whatsoever into the items of clothing that I wear throughout my day-to-day life, when I'm working out, when I'm sleeping at night, and the impact it could potentially have on both my short and long-term health.

My guest today is Alden Wicker.

Alden is a journalist and author who has written

investigative pieces for outlets including Wired, The New York Times, Inc. Magazine,

popular science, craftsmanship quarterly, Vox, and others. Her reporting specializes on issues

in the fashion industry and her latest book is called To Die For, that's D-Y-E, how toxic fashion is making us sick and how we can fight back.

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