Hi guys, I'm Gwen Pantro. Every Thursday, Goop at the first

birthday of the city, in the Strasbourg and called Culture Changers.

All take turns in our inner barrier breaking guests as we talk about ships and all

patterns and start our conversation.

Today's guest is Oscar Cerelach, a family doctor based in Australia who coined the concept

of postnatal depletion, which he was observing in his patients for up to seven years after

they had given birth.

Postnatal depletion is exactly what it sounds like, being completely run down to the point

of exhaustion after having kids.

He could find very little and publish scientific literature about the subject, and so he began

digging deeper.

I've been diving deep with this for the last seven to eight years and I've just seen

slowly but surely a shift in both the medical profession and also just in the dialogues

that I'm hearing on the media and amongst society about, it's okay for a mother to maybe

have three months maternity leave or have a team of people around her and she's not being

selfish.

His first piece on Goop nearly broke the site because so many women could relate, and

it led to Dr Cerelach's first book, The Postnatal Depletion Cure, which is out now from Goop

Dr Cerelach sat down with our chief content officer, Elise Loonon, to unpack the kind of support

that moms typically receive in 2018 and how we can do much better.

In America it's probably the most exaggerated country in the world for the fact is leading

to postnatal depletion in terms of like you say with the lack of federal support, with

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