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Coffee House Shots

Are we any closer to a Brexit deal?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 December 2020

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Boris Johnson and Ursula von der Leyen have decided to continue Brexit negotiations, it was announced today. A deal between the two sides seemed distant after the pair met for dinner last week, and they decided to take stock over the following days. Does the announcement mean real progress is now being made? Katy Balls speaks to James Forsyth.

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0:18.6

Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. It's Sunday and another Brexit deadline has been and gone.

0:24.8

James, after Boris Johnson's dinner of Ursh, the von der Leyen earlier in the week, which by some

0:31.1

accounts didn't go particularly well as days go on, both sides agreed to try and keep talking,

0:37.1

see what happened and take stock on Sunday.

0:40.6

Now, the two sides have taken stock and we get more talks. Can you tell us what they had to say?

0:46.3

So, Ursula von der Leyen and Boris Johnson issued a joint statement saying that they would have more talks.

0:52.1

It was the responsible thing to do, which was an interesting

0:54.7

choice of words, and that they would go the extra mile. They described their phone call

1:00.4

this morning as useful. Interestingly, in her televised statement, Ursula von der Leyen, called it

1:06.3

constructive and useful. And I think the Moom Musicabody EU is more positive. Boris Johnson's TV clip was a bit more downbeat, still suggesting that WTO terms were the most likely outcome.

1:18.6

But I think if you're trying to read the kind of smoke signals from Brussels, I don't think the talks would be continuing and certainly not with this warmth of language

1:28.5

about a useful conversation alike if it wasn't the fact that the negotiators were making some

1:34.8

progress. And I think we also now saw that in his clip, Borison, said the UK wouldn't be walking away

1:40.5

from the talks. So what I think that means is the negotiators are making some progress.

1:48.9

They haven't set another deadline for these talks, which suggests that essentially the real deadline is the end of a transition period on the 31st of December or a couple of days before that

1:53.2

to give it time to going to try and rush whatever legislation is necessary through the UK and

1:58.2

European parliaments, respectively. So I do think it looks a little bit more hopeful

2:03.4

than it looked in the immediate aftermath of that Boris Johnson, Ursula von der Leyen, dinner on

2:08.9

Wednesday night when the UK side kind of complained that they'd kept proposing things and the EU side

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