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Cheers. Alex Rosenberg from Real Vision with another full audio version of an interview

that we released as a video on Real Vision for subscribers. Now this

conversation Brian Reynolds sits down with our reporter Tyler Neville

now Brian Reynolds may not be a household name but we had him on because he is the

expert in pension liabilities and how these pension funds are trying to

generate the returns they need, especially when the pensions themselves are unfunded or underfunded.

And so Brian is the former chief market strategies of Rosenblatt securities.

These guys sat down in late March in New Hampshire.

We brought a whole film crew up to New Hampshire

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