Welcome back, everybody, to You Have Permission, the show that aims to take both Christianity

and the modern world of science and culture.

Very seriously, I'm Dan Koch, and today I am joined by two other post-evangelical podcasters.

Casey and Sam from Growing Up Christian, gentlemen, thank you for being here.

Hey.

Thank you for having us.

Yeah, big time pleasure.

I feel like I've moved up in the world.

This is part of a little episode swap we did.

So we just recorded one for the growing up Christian feed,

where I was in the hot seat and I've got you guys in the hot seat for my show. And I'll just say,

listeners of this show, if you would like to hear about as unfiltered a version of me as you'll

ever hear, you might go check that out. I was, this, this is now my

fifth episode taping in two days. That's nuts, dude. We struggle to do one a week sometimes.

Well, I know, but what I've been doing during this internship is I've been taking my vacation

days and then doing two or three episodes a day on them. I haven't really had a proper vacation all year. That's just what it's

taken for this one year and it's almost over and I can't wait. But so I pack them in and that's fine,

but I'm just setting expectations reasonably. And I think that's a little bit why you got such a silly billy.

That's Coke 151.

It's the Coke, the Pepsi Max version of Coke.

We appreciate it.

You got the jolt cola, me, yeah.

...