Are The Conservatives 'Over'?
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4.4 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 15 September 2025
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Today, Danny Kruger the Conservative MP and shadow minister has defected to Reform.
Speaking at a press conference alongside Nigel Farage, Kruger said “the Conservatives are over” and confirmed he would not be triggering a by-election.
In response Kemi Badenoch says she is “not going to get blown off course” - Adam and Chris discuss this, and the Prime Minister’s comments today that he would “never” have appointed Mandelson had he known full Epstein links.
Plus, Adam is joined by Panorama presenter Jane Corbin ahead of President Trump’s state visit. They discuss the history of the special relationship, and whether Starmer has benefitted from his connection to Trump during his time in office.
Watch Trump and Starmer: A Special Relationship here - https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002jm8m
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:06.0 | Hello, Chris. |
| 0:07.0 | Hello. |
| 0:07.7 | Shall we sound the nerd alert, which, according to last week's economist, we do when we were going to talk about something detailed? |
| 0:13.2 | Did you know we had such a thing as a nerd alert? |
| 0:15.4 | No, I didn't. |
| 0:16.3 | But I just think the whole thing. |
| 0:17.7 | I mean, it isn't just newscast a sort of decade-long experiment in nerd alerts every day of the week. |
| 0:23.7 | It would just be blaring the whole time, like a fire alarm that never stops or a smoke alarm that needs a new battery. |
| 0:28.8 | Anyway, sorry economists, we don't have nerd alerts. |
| 0:32.0 | Anyway, that's easier than writing them a letter, isn't it? |
| 0:35.5 | But we are going to sign the nerd alert now if we had one, |
| 0:37.9 | because today, Monday, in the House of Commons, |
| 0:41.8 | the speaker granted an SO-24. |
| 0:45.1 | Yes. |
| 0:46.0 | So this was happening whilst I was furiously editing a 6 o'clock news piece, |
| 0:49.1 | so you might help me along with some of the details here, Adam, |
| 0:51.2 | because I didn't catch all of this. |
| 0:52.7 | This is a no nerd alert. |
| 0:54.6 | This is a reference to Standing Order 24, which is a mechanism that is used in Parliament |
| 1:01.6 | by those who seek to raise something that usually they hope will cause the government some |
| 1:08.1 | anguish. |
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