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Are RFK Jr. & MAHA Coming for Your Vaccine?

Pod Save America

Crooked Media

News, Politics

4.6 • 83.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Health Secretary RFK Jr. has gutted the CDC's vaccine advisory committee, replacing its members with a mix of anti-vaxxers, COVID contrarians, and medical non-professionals. What do these sweeping changes to our vaccine infrastructure—and the rise of the ironically named MAHA movement, short for Make America Healthy Again—mean for the health and well-being of everyday Americans? Dan sits down with epidemiologist and data scientist Katelyn Jetelina to unpack the implications of Kennedy's policies on flu season, COVID, and a broad range of preventable diseases. Katelyn also explains how the politicization of seed oils, food dyes, and fluoride distracts from the public health issues that actually matter—and shares what she learned from grassroots MAHA organizers about their uneasy alliance with MAGA.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Potsave America. I'm Dan Pfeiffer.

0:22.5

For our Sunday show this week, we're going to do a deep dive into Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

0:25.7

The Make America Healthy Again Movement and the dangerous changes to vaccine policy happening right now.

0:31.5

While Trump's illegal deportations, unconstitutional airstrikes, and crypto scams get mostly attention,

0:36.6

RFK Jr. is quietly dismantling

0:38.4

the public health infrastructure that Americans have depended on for decades. These changes in the rise

0:43.3

of the Maha movement are having a profound and dangerous effect on our science and our politics.

0:48.0

My guest this week is someone who's been keeping tabs on Maha and RFK Jr. since the very beginning.

0:53.2

Dr. Caitlin Jedalina began writing the

0:55.2

substack, your local epidemiologist in the early days of the COVID pandemic, and it's now

0:59.6

the platform's top science newsletter. She's an epidemiologist and data scientist and the co-host

1:04.8

of the America Dissected Podcast with former Crooked Collaborator Dr. Abdul El-Said.

1:09.9

I invited her on the show to discuss what this movement is, why it's resonating with so many

1:13.7

people, whether there's anything we can do to stop it.

1:16.4

Caitlin Jedalina, welcome to Pod Save America.

1:18.5

Thank you for having me.

1:19.6

I'm honored to be here.

1:21.1

I have so much I want to talk to you about.

1:23.1

I have been thinking and worrying about what's happening with RFK Jr. and HHS and the Maha movement

1:30.4

and vaccines for a long time. So we have a lot to get to. But I want to start with this week's

1:34.8

meeting of the CDC's advisory committee on immunization practices, the committee that sets

1:40.8

vaccine policy in this country. Before we get into the specifics of this meeting,

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