Hey there, this is Ari Witten.

Welcome back to the Energy Blueprint podcast.

I am very, very excited for today's episode.

I've wanted to do this for a very long time.

I've had lots of people actually asking me to do this for a very long time.

And I'm excited to welcome Dr. Paul Saladino to the show for what is a discussion, debate.

There's going to be some points of agreement, some points of disagreement with also Alex Leif, who has been on the show two or three times previously.

And I'll give you their brief bios. Dr. Saladino is a medical doctor.

He's the author of the Carnivore Code, unlocking the secrets to optimal health by returning to our ancestral diet.

He's regarded as a leading authority on the science and application of the carnivore diet.

And prior to medical school, he worked as a physician assistant in cardiology.

He attended medical school at the University of Arizona, focusing on integrated medicine and

nutritional biochemistry.

And he completed his residency and psychiatry at the University of Washington.

And Alex is, you guys have heard lots and lots of content from him.

He's a certified sports nutritionist.

He's a nutrition researcher and he has a master's of science in nutrition.

So welcome to the show, guys.

Thank you so much for doing this.

I know that it's often like kind of an anxiety-provoking thing to have these kinds of discussions and debates.

So thank you for having the courage to do this.

And I hope that we can all keep it polite and respectful and, you know, no, no mud slinging

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