Are Mushrooms Truly Magic? with Dr. Patty Kaishian

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

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🗓️ 8 June 2022

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Jonathan long saw mushrooms as an ingredient to avoid on a menu—until they learned that mushrooms, and fungi more generally, have a lot to do with queerness. In this week’s “Pride In Nature” episode, Dr. Patty Kaishian joins Jonathan to discuss fungi behavior and reproduction, her groundbreaking work on queer mycology, and how changing our relationships with fungi can change the world. Dr. Patty Kaishian is a mycologist and Visiting Professor at Bard College. Her research focuses on fungal taxonomy, diversity, evolution, symbiosis, and ecology, particularly of the less studied fungal groups, such as the insect-associated Laboulbeniales. Dr. Kaishian also studies philosophy of science and feminist bioscience, exploring how mycology and other scientific disciplines are situated in and informed by our sociopolitical landscape. Loved learning about the fabulous world of fungi? Follow Dr. Kaishian on Instagram and Twitter @queendom_fungi! For more information about the International Congress of Armenian Mycologists, visit https://icarmenian-mycologists.github.io/. Join the conversation, and find out what former guests are up to, by following us on Instagram and Twitter @CuriousWithJVN. Jonathan is on Instagram and Twitter @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on Facebook. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Love listening to Getting Curious? Now, you can also watch Getting Curious—on Netflix! Head to netflix.com/gettingcurious to dive in. Our executive producer is Erica Getto. Our associate producer is Zahra Crim. Our editor is Andrew Carson. Our socials are run and curated by Middle Seat Digital. Our theme music is “Freak” by QUIÑ; for more, head to TheQuinCat.com. Getting Curious merch is available on PodSwag.com.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Getting Curious, I'm Jonathan Van Nets and every week we get to do a gorgeous little
0:05.6	trip together where we sit down for a gorgeous conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all
0:10.4	about something that makes me curious. On today's episode I'm joined by Dr. Patty Keishien,
0:16.6	where I ask her, our mushrooms truly magic. Welcome to Getting Curious, this is Jonathan Van Ness,
0:24.3	I'm so excited for this week's episode because honey we are going to places that we have never
0:29.4	gone before on getting curious. Welcome to the show, Dr. Patty Keishien, who is a my
0:35.9	collegeist and forest pathologist. I've never even heard of that before. She's currently a visiting
0:42.5	assistant professor of biology at Bard College. How are you, Patty? I'm so happy to be here, so
0:48.8	thank you for having me on your super cool podcast. So here's the thing, I have always
0:55.6	not liked mushrooms in terms of taste. They really are a part of what I loathe like pickles,
1:01.1	olives, mushrooms. I've talked about it on the show before and even with like,
1:04.7	shrooms of the magical variety, if you know what I mean, those like make me gag. But then we stumbled
1:10.6	upon on team getting curious your research and it turns out there's some stuff about mushrooms
1:16.5	that maybe were obsessed with which begs the question, wait, do I actually love mushrooms?
1:26.2	Why do people have such a strong reaction to mushrooms? So I guess when it comes to taste,
1:32.8	that's all very personal. I don't have any big theories for that other than, you know,
1:38.0	when you're a kid, you may have had some imprinting happens. Maybe some weird partly spoiled food
1:43.6	that you ate like on Oliver pickle or mushroom and you just, well, your body remembers the
1:48.9	experience of eating something that had gone slightly bad maybe. Also, maybe you know this,
1:54.4	but when you're a kid, your whole mouth is covered in taste buds, not just your tongue.
1:59.5	So kids actually taste things like way more than like adults do. That's why kids are so sensitive
2:05.6	to food because they actually taste it more intensely. That's also why you should be really
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