Are Justin Bieber, Sabrina Carpenter, & Cardi B Moving Up or Down in the Pop Pantheon?
Pop Pantheon
DJ Louie XIV
4.7 • 630 Ratings
🗓️ 16 October 2025
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Summary
Louie & Russ play a game of Step Up, Step Down where they look at recent career moves by Justin Bieber, Sabrina Carpenter, Doja Cat, Cardi B, and Lorde and decide if they are currently on an upward or downward slope in the Pop Pantheon.
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| 0:00.0 | People say that reality TV is the downfall of society. |
| 0:04.3 | It's mindless, shallow, trash. |
| 0:06.8 | But if it's such garbage, why do we love it so much? |
| 0:10.1 | Why does watching a real housewife get arrested kind of hit like a Greek tragedy? |
| 0:14.3 | Why is Bachelor in Paradise basically a Shakespearean comedy just with more spray tans and lash extensions? |
| 0:20.0 | I have a new podcast for you that answers these questions and more. |
| 0:23.9 | I'm Jolenta Greenberg, comedian, pop culture critic, and host of Hot Masterpiece Theater, |
| 0:29.0 | the podcast that treats reality TV like serious art. |
| 0:32.4 | Each week, we'll deep dive into what makes reality television so juicy. |
| 0:36.6 | The classic storylines, the larger-than-life characters, |
| 0:39.6 | the unwritten rules behind the drama. And I'll be joined by smart, funny guests like comedians |
| 0:45.0 | Chelsea Devontes and Eric Williams to break down their favorite iconic reality TV scenes. |
| 0:50.4 | At Hot Masterpiece Theater, we believe that reality TV isn't ruining culture. |
| 0:55.0 | It is culture. |
| 0:56.3 | Listen now wherever you get your favorite podcasts. |
| 1:19.4 | Welcome to Pop Panther on the podcast, where we completely overanalyze all of your favorite pop stars and then rank them in the official Pop Pantheon. |
| 1:24.4 | This is your host, DJ Louis XIV. Don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe wherever you're listening. |
| 1:26.9 | Follow us on social media at Pop Pantheon Pod. |
| 1:28.1 | Buy our merch at Poppantheonpod.com, and subscribe to our Patreon, Pop Pantheon All Access, where we do weekly |
| 1:34.1 | bonus episodes of this show. This past week, Rich Joswiak, deep friend of the pod, was on the show |
| 1:40.5 | to talk with me about Mariah Carey's 16th album, Here For It All. |
| 1:45.0 | Rich is obviously the Mariahologist of the world of the global internet community. |
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