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Goldman Sachs Exchanges

Are Investors Complacent?

Goldman Sachs Exchanges

Goldman Sachs

Business

4.41K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Markets seem to be taking tariffs and landmark changes in global trade policy in stride. Goldman Sachs’ Jan Hatzius and Dom Wilson discuss the impact of tariffs on inflation and growth, and their outlook for the second half of 2025. This episode was recorded on July 17, 2025. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

President Trump's sizable tariffs are still on the table.

0:08.8

But markets seem very relaxed about this landmark change in global trade policy, and the

0:13.4

economic data seems to be hanging in.

0:15.7

So why is that?

0:17.4

And is there a risk that investors have become too complacent? I'm Alison Nathan, and this is

0:22.2

Goldman Sachs Exchanges. Today I'm joined by Jan Hotsias, head of Goldman Sachs Research in the firm's

0:30.8

chief economist and Dominic Wilson, senior advisor in the Global Markets Research Group. Jan, Dom,

0:36.8

it's great to have you back on exchanges

0:38.1

again. Thank you. Good forward to it. Jan, as I just said, the market seem very complacent

0:44.0

about tariff risk at this point, but a lot is still happening around them. So first, just catch us up

0:50.3

what's been implemented so far on the tariff front and what you expect to be implemented

0:54.7

ahead?

0:55.7

So far, we've seen about a 9 percentage point increase in the average effective tariff

1:02.6

rate on all U.S. imports, which is composed of 30% China tariffs, 25% Canada, Mexico, X.

1:12.7

USMCA, 10% on a broad range of countries, and then some sector-specific tariffs,

1:19.9

especially on autos and on steel and aluminum.

1:23.8

We're expecting that 9% point increase to go to something like 14 by the end of the year.

1:32.1

And we've been in that general vicinity for several months at this point.

1:37.2

It really hasn't changed very much, although the details keep changing and are probably going to continue to change.

1:43.1

Our current expectation is that the

1:46.5

5% point increment from here is going to be an increase in the sort of general baseline rate

1:54.4

from 10 to 15 and then we'll also get some additional sector-specific tariffs on things like semiconductors.

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