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More or Less: Behind the Stats

Are black babies in the US really more likely to die under the care of white doctors?

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 February 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Babies born in the US to Black Hispanic or African American mothers are more likely to die than any other ethnic group in America.

That is a fact.

But the reason why this happens is unclear. In 2020 a study came out that claimed that black babies attended by white doctors after birth were twice as likely to die than white babies attended by white doctors.

People jumped to the conclusion that the race of the doctor was leading to the different outcomes. But when you delve into the numbers, a very different picture starts to emerge.

Presenter: Lizzy McNeill Series producer: Tom Colls Production coordinator: Brenda Brown Sound mix: Steve Greenwood Editor: Richard Vadon

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sounds. Hello and thank you for downloading the more or less podcast. We're the program that

0:43.8

looks at the numbers in the news and the world around us, and I'm Lizzie McNeil. Data can tell us a lot

0:49.6

of things, useful things like how many vaccines need to be administered and to who, what series you should

0:56.3

binge watch next, or how your ranking stands up in Diablo.

1:00.7

But sometimes the people interpreting data get the wrong end of the statistical stick.

1:06.4

Correlations get assumed to be causations and fingers get pointed in directions they probably shouldn't.

1:12.5

One such case was this stark headline.

1:15.0

The chance of survival is tripled if a black baby is looked after by a white doctor.

1:20.7

This came from a peer-reviewed paper published in the proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences in 2020.

1:26.9

The researchers were looking into factors

1:28.5

that could reduce the mortality risk for black babies. And they found that if a black baby

1:33.5

is looked after by a white doctor, they were twice as likely to die. So headline didn't quite get

1:38.6

that bit right. This finding, obviously, and quite rightly, caused quite the media commotion.

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