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Big Technology Podcast

Are 95% of Businesses Really Getting No Return on AI Investment? — With Aaron Levie

Big Technology Podcast

Alex Kantrowitz

Technology, Religion & Spirituality, Business News, Business, Religion, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Entrepreneurship, Management, Marketing, Politics, News Commentary, Government, Investing, Tech News, Social Sciences, News

4.6395 Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Aaron Levie is the CEO of Box. Levie joins Big Technology to discuss the reports that a vast majority of businesses are not getting a return on their AI investments. Levie shares his takeaways from the reports, gives a rebuttal, and discusses the reality on the ground. Stay tuned for the second half where we separate hype from reality in the AI agent conversation. Tune in for a wide-ranging, post-Boxworks deep dive on where AI is heading in the coming years. --- Enjoying Big Technology Podcast? Please rate us five stars ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ in your podcast app of choice. Want a discount for Big Technology on Substack + Discord? Here’s 25% off for the first year: https://www.bigtechnology.com/subscribe?coupon=0843016b Questions? Feedback? Write to: [email protected]

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0:00.0

Why are the headlines telling us that businesses are getting no return on AI investment,

0:04.9

and our AI agents finally ready to get to work? We'll cover it all with Box CEO Aaron Levy right after this.

0:12.1

Capital One's tech team isn't just talking about multi-agentic AI. They already deployed one. It's called chat concierge,

0:20.4

and it's simplifying car shopping.

0:22.7

Using self-reflection and layered reasoning with live API checks,

0:27.2

it doesn't just help buyers find a car they love.

0:30.5

It helps schedule a test drive, get pre-approved for financing,

0:34.6

and estimate trade and value.

0:36.8

Advanced, intuitive, and deployed. That's how they

0:40.3

stack. That's technology at Capital One. Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed

0:46.4

and nuanced conversation of the tech world and beyond. Well, today we're going to talk about

0:51.2

AI and its application and business, whether it's actually

0:54.2

making a difference in whether AI agents are a real thing. We have the perfect guest to do it today

1:00.4

because we have Aaron Levy back with us fresh off the BoxWorks AI event. And Aaron, it's

1:09.4

great to see you as always. Thank you. I thank you. Alex. Good to do, good to be here. So did I did I add box, uh, Boxworks AI event as or is it just called Boxworks? And I'm just like, I like you. I like you call an AI event. Um, it is just called Boxworks, but, uh, but anytime you want to to jamming AI in there, we're good.

1:28.5

Okay, sounds good.

1:29.4

You had a lot of AI news.

1:30.7

We'll get into that in a moment.

1:36.9

But since you are talking with a lot of folks about AI applications in business, I want to run this MIT study by you and get your perspective on what's real and what's not.

1:41.3

So this is from Axios a couple weeks ago.

1:44.3

MIT study on AI profits rattles tech investors.

1:48.2

Wall Street's biggest fear was validated by a recent MIT study,

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