One of the thought games I like to play with myself is you can simultaneously be alone up in the mountains but also really richly connected with all these other people who've had that connection with the place.

A part of like a river of time.

Part of that is promoting this notion of stewardship

and promoting this idea that people are part of landscapes now and they have been in the past.

And if we want to sustain them into the future, we damn well need to think about managing them

with people as part of the ecosystem rather than pretending they're not.

And so I'm a strange archaeologist

in that I'm more interested in the future

than I am in the past.

The past is just sort of the data that we can help to assemble to better sort of develop ideas or

models of how to sustain the landscape into that future, that grandchildren time.

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