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Code Switch

Arab and Black communities are trying to reconcile after Trump's election

Code Switch

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Society & Culture

4.6 β€’ 14.5K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Trump's win exposed political tensions between Arab-American voters β€” who were critical of Democratic support of Israel's war in Gaza, and Black voters β€” who remain the Democrats' most loyal supporters. That friction is especially pronounced in the majority Arab city of Dearborn, Michigan, and its majority Black neighbor, Detroit. This week, we go to a testy iftar dinner where Arab and Black folks sat down to begin having tough conversations.

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You're listening to Code Switch. I'm Gene Demby.

0:41.9

When we visited Dearborn, Michigan, the unofficial capital of Arab America, and a historically democratic-leaning city last fall, things there were tense.

0:46.0

Voters there were angry about the ongoing violence in Gaza because a lot of people in Dearborn have family in the Middle East.

0:49.1

This community has never been a one-issue kind of community, one-issue vote.

0:53.7

But I heard actually someone say,

0:56.1

if I'm going to become a one-issue voter and that issue is genocide, I'm okay with it.

1:03.2

People were united on that one issue,

1:05.9

but were really divided over what that meant for how they should vote.

1:10.1

Like Samra Lukman, who identifies as a progressive Democrat.

1:14.6

If the Democratic Party does not wish to do the right thing,

1:18.6

even after they have been begged to by some people,

1:21.6

then I think it's time for us to consider punishing them

1:24.6

and showing them in action, you're going to lose election.

1:29.1

We're going to make sure you lose.

1:32.9

I do not care if Harris is punished. I care if our movement is well positioned to save some lives,

1:39.4

because some of those lives happen to be real human beings who I know.

1:44.0

That's Abbas Aloia. He's one of the founders

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