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American Revolution Podcast

AR348 Creating a Congress, 1787

American Revolution Podcast

Michael Troy

Education, History

4.6 • 938 Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Over the summer of 1787, the Federal Convention in Philadelphia struggles with the details of how the new federal legislature will work. Blog https://blog.AmRevPodcast.com includes a complete transcript, as well as more resources related to this week's episode. Book Recommendation of the Week: 1787: The Grand Convention, by Clinton Rossiter. (borrow on archive.org) Online Recommendation of the Week: The Constitutional Convention of 1787: A Day by Day Account: https://www.nps.gov/inde/learn/historyculture/stories-constitutionalconvention.htm Join American Revolution Podcast on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/AmRevPodcast Ask your American Revolution Podcast questions on Quora: https://amrevpod.quora.com Join the Facebook group, American Revolution Podcast: https://www.facebook.com/groups/132651894048271 Follow the podcast on X @AmRevPodcast Join the podcast mail list: https://mailchi.mp/d3445a9cd244/american-revolution-podcast-by-michael-troy  ARP T-shirts and other merch: https://merch.amrevpodcast.com Support this podcast on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/AmRevPodcast or via PayPal http://paypal.me/AmRevPodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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... Hello, and thank you for joining the American Revolution.

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This week, episode 348, Creating Congress, 1787.

0:58.2

Last week, we covered the most controversial issue of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia in 1787. That was whether states should be represented in Congress by

1:03.9

population or equal representation in each state. The convention, of course, ended up splitting the

1:10.1

difference, giving population by representation to convention, of course, ended up splitting the difference, giving population

1:12.1

by representation to the House of Representatives, and equal representation by state to the Senate.

1:17.9

To reach that final agreement, however, the delegates had to agree to having two houses in the

1:23.5

first place. While this issue was not nearly as heated as the controversial

1:27.6

proportionality question, it did go through some back and forth. Now, the initial Virginia

1:33.2

plan that was written by James Madison had recommended two houses of Congress, what we call

1:38.6

a bicameral legislature. Madison considered this to be an important check on a potentially runaway majority.

1:45.8

Although the Confederation had operated with a single house, Madison saw that as a problem.

1:51.9

Eleven of the thirteen states had bicameral legislatures, only Pennsylvania and Georgia had

1:56.8

a single house.

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