From the campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

Here's your host, Scott Bertram.

Hello again, everybody, and welcome in to another

edition of The Radio Free Hillsdale Hour. On this episode, we'll talk with Khalil Habib,

Associate Professor of Politics at Hillsdale College, about the ideas and attempts to repeal

the Electoral College. Alan Gelza with us, he's a professor at Gettysburg College, and author

and writer,

will discuss with him a re-evaluation of President Ulysses Grant.

Dwight Lindley, professor of English at Hillsdale, returns with his occasional series on basic literary concepts, and Stephen Shipp, Headmaster at Seven Oaks Classical Academy in Indiana,

will discuss reconsidering some of our thinking on education.

But first, we're joined now by Dr. Khalil Habib, Associate Professor of Politics here at Hillsdale

College. Dr. Habib, thanks for joining us.

It's great to be here.

So I wanted to talk to you about, well, the electoral college, an issue that everyone thinks

about every four years, but now we think about a little

more often, especially because many of the 2020 candidates, potential candidates on a Democratic

side, have been discussing a possibility of eliminating the electoral college or changing

the electoral college.

They want to do something.

They're not happy about it.

So I wanted to ask you about the beginnings

and why it exists in the way it does. So let's start there. What was the philosophical

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