Hello and welcome to today's independent travel podcast with me, Simon Calder. It's Friday the 25th of April.

Crucially, I should say that I am recording this at 1.30 on Friday and I am still waiting to hear from the Civil Aviation Authority about why,

well, this is according to Ryanair, they said that Ryanair could not put on a rescue

flight for a bunch of passengers who were stranded after an air rage incident. I've been hearing

more from Eddie Wilson, who is the chief executive of Ryanair DAC, which is the main part of Ryanair and a cousin or a sister of Ryanair UK.

Here's how our conversation went.

Eddie Wilson, Chief Executive of Ryanair DAC, do you mind if I just run through what I think happened and you can tell me if I'm correct on this and then tell me what you're concerned about?

So last night, the Ryan Air Flight 1265 from Agadir to Manchester took off as normal disruptive passenger, I'm sorry to say.

Diversion declared to Faroe, landed normally, refueled. Then there was a technical issue

which required the attendance of a Ryanair UK engineer, and there wasn't one there, understandably.

So Ryanair, DAC, you're part of the organisation, said, we've got an aircraft, identical,

we've got a crew, we can rescue these 177 passengers.

But then, the Civil Aviation Authority in the UK said, no, you can't.

You got it in one.

So that's exactly what happened.

Here's the important thing.

They could have said yes.

They actually said yes earlier that day from a flight from Gerona.

But it seems the CIA are more aligned with the disruptive passenger

and rather than being aligned with consumers.

177 people on board, 32 children and an instance on board had to stay in a hotel overnight.

They're taking off in an hour to get back to Manchester.

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