April 12, 2020 | On GPS: When to reopen the economy? The experts weigh in. Also, a WHO official and former UK PM Gordon Brown.

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🗓️ 12 April 2020

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Airdate April 12 2020: When will it be safe to re-open the economy? Fareed speaks to health experts and a Nobel Prize-winning economist. And, Pres. Trump's criticism's of the WHO, and his threat to defund it--are his attacks well-founded? WHO Spokesperson Margaret Harris responds. Meanwhile, former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown tells Fareed about the global cooperation necessary to stem the crisis. GUESTS: Jennifer Nuzzo, Paul Romer, Mark McClellan, Dr. Margaret Harris, Gordon Brown

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0:00.0	This is GPS, the Global Public Square. Welcome to all of you in the United States and
0:06.5	around the world. I'm Farid Zakaria coming to you live from New York. Today on the show,
0:13.6	to open or not to open the economy. That is the question. Top health experts and a Nobel
0:19.7	Prize-winning economist will offer their opinions. And President Trump says the World Health
0:26.0	Organization is too soft on China and missed the call on COVID-19. I'll ask a senior official
0:33.2	at the organization about these criticisms. Also former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown says
0:39.9	the world needs to come together in an unprecedented fashion to fight the pandemic. He'll explain why
0:46.9	that's crucial. But first, here's my take. Something important has happened over the course of this crisis.
0:56.0	Estimates of expected deaths have gone down by a lot. On March 31st, the White House estimated
1:03.1	that even with social distancing policies in place between 100,000 and 240,000 Americans
1:11.2	would die of COVID-19. Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House's coronavirus response coordinator,
1:17.7	said that that was, quote, our real number. Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious
1:24.0	disease expert recently indicated he now believes it will be more like 60,000. The University of
1:31.2	Washington model, which has been cited by the White House predicted on March 26th, that assuming
1:37.0	social distancing policies that stay in place till June the 1st, US deaths by August would most
1:43.6	likely be around 81,000. By April 10th, they had made many revisions to get to their current number,
1:51.3	61,500. Predictions for hospitalization rates have also proven to be way too high.
1:59.3	On March 30th, the University of Washington projected that California would need 4,800 beds
2:06.2	on April 3rd. In fact, the state needed 2,200. The same model predicted that New York would need
2:14.3	58,000 beds on April 3rd. It used only 15,000. It made sense to take precautions, but that may
2:22.2	have come at a cost as there are concerns that patients with other conditions haven't gotten
2:27.2	the care they need. So what is going on? Well, many experts believe that social distancing has
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